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I love the story and im actually really happy about what ea did to mass effect 3 because i love the ambiguity inherent in the ending and the whole indoctrination theory, plus it sparked the whole hatred of ea thing in earnest which will be a good thing in the longrun. The issue is that the leviathan and the catalyst describe what this problem is. Even if its not what they intended, enough pieces are there where if they came out and said it was true, people would. This means you completely bypass the lab part, and go straight to the next section. What happens to the characters we all love afterwards. Jan 22, 20 the indoctrination theory is the answer to that question, single handedly filling each and every plot hole while creating the best interpretation of mass effect s ending. It was released for microsoft windows, playstation 3, and xbox 360 in august 28, 2012, with a delayed release in europe on the ps3 platform set for august 29, 2012. Mass effect 3 ending was very open and unsatisfying to many so im not surprised people made theories or their own endings. The only thing that kills that theory is the fact that there are no mass relays. Why insult people for having a theory, crazy or clever. The game focuses on the protagonist, commander shepard, and their quest to stop the rogue spectre saren arterius from leading an army of sentient machines, called the geth, to. The indoctrination theory is pretty much totally discredited at this point.

Indoctrination is one of the most insidious weapons the reapers have in their arsenal. They can use this ability to communicate with other beings in a manner similar to telepathy, as well as to turn them into thralls. Mass effect 3 the indoctrination theory extended cut clevernoob documentary reupload. In the course of the leviathan dlc you learn some pretty important new facts about the reapers, namely that. Leviathan, the war data on board the normandy states that a secret multispecies taskforce was entrusted with locating leviathan fragments and delivering them behind enemy lines throughout the remainder of the reaper war. Indoctrination theory is merely realizing how lazy the mass effect team was. Bryson is to be found in his lab see the screen below. Leviathan something lurks in the dark corners of space, something powerful enough to kill a reaper. The biggest problem with indoctrination theory is that it means mass effect 3 doesnt have an ending. Indoctrination theory mass effect 3 wiki guide ign. Mar 21, 2012 and its the gist of the indoctrination theory, which is the best theory thats been posited yet for why the ending to mass effect 3 wasnt as bad as it sure seems like it was. Destroy is the only victory and indoctrination theory. Leviathan bioware standard edition something lurks in the dark corners of space, something powerful enough to kill a reaper. The leviathan dlc confirms the existance of the star child outside of.

This subreddit is for people who love the mass effect universe the games, books. We know that weird dreams can be sideeffect by indoctrination. Considering also that my basic premise with this trilogy is that the player has some ability to build different characterizations of shepard, i do believe it somewhat possible for individual players to force or set up an indoctrination of shepard by playing the leviathan sequence after thessia and using the head canon that leviathan is the. Mass effect wiki is a comprehensive database for the mass effect video game series. Disconnect from the internet pull ethernet cords, disconnect wifi, or crank up firewalls, whatever you need to do. The leviathan confronted by commander shepard notes that this. The biblical references at the end of mass effect 3 are laid on pretty thick and i feel should be further explored. Many of the novels focus on indoctrination going into great detail about the process and how it affects an individual. It relied on circumstantial evidence from the getgo, but with the extended cut its a massive stretch. All rather tenuous of course, however when reaching the catalyst shepard meets a ghostly vilike being that claims to be the catalyst and manifests as the boy from these dreams. Receive an urgent message from admiral hackett on your personal terminal. Indoctrination theory bioware social network fan forums. I will applaud whoever made the indoctrination theory for having an eye for. During docking, location selection screen will appeardr.

A logical breakdown of why the mass effect 3 ending makes. Retribution, written by drew karpyshyn and published by del rey press, is a thirdperson, sciencefiction novel set in the mass effect universe, told primarily from the pointsofview of paul grayson and kahlee sanders. Mass effect, personal identity, and genocide by russ hamer as video games and gaming gain traction in our society, we are seeing the production of more and more games that immerse the player in serious narratives full of complicated philosophical problems. It would be cool if there was a link and the original trilogy and andromeda. The 50,000 year cycle theory hypothesizes that there is a 50,000 year reoccurring cycle across the mass effect universe. There is no sense denying that the extended cut disproved a lot of the theory. While mass effect games do follow a specific plot, they also leave a lot up to interpretation. Mass effect 3 the indoctrination theory clevernoob. Bioware debunks the me3 indoctrine theory spoilers. With great technological advancements, humanity has set foot into space and made many new allies by joining a. The codex mentions hallucinations of ghostly presences and alien voices as an effect of indoctrination, the rachni queen mentions oily shadows as an effect. It is established in the books and reinforced in mass effect 3 that indoctrination is facilitated by a lapse in conscious will being drugged, sleeping, or otherwise being unconscious or not in full command of ones resolve. Jul 01, 20 as many fans of the mass effect franchise know or have at least heard about the indoctrination theory i just want to know if it is true or not. Bioware debunks the me3 indoctrine theory spoilers system.

Mar 21, 2012 but the fact is, true or not, the indoctrination theory is a win for bioware. The indoctrination theory is the answer to that question, single handedly filling each and every plot hole while creating the best interpretation of mass effect s ending. If you are new to the indoctrination theory it is a very good idea that you first start. After you read the orders from admiral hackett, go to the citadel. If you subscribe to the shepard indoctrination theory which many do noti personally do, that process would have taken years. The indoctrination theory is the answer to that question, single handedly filling each and every plot hole while creating the best interpretation of mass effects ending. Based on the conclusion that indoctrination theory is correct. Due to its separation from the main trilogy, it has caused quite a stir within the. Download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. Changes in the ending sequence are based on two criteria. The indoctrination theory relies on the fact that what is happening after shepard reaches the beam isnt real and is taking place inside shepards mind. Apr 25, 2017 the initial influences of this theory was the explosion of the citadel mass relay at the end of mass effect 3 and how its shockwave looked similar to the explosionlike graphic behind ryder in the official mass effect andromeda trailer. The reapers resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.

And if we blend out a leviathan threat, we are down to quick v recovering vs. The biblical themes of mass effects endingspoilers mass. Leviathan is a compendium, and it contains a thorough description of challenges offered by this dlc, alongside with necessary and supplementary information required for its completion. First is shorter than id like, but it had to end where it did. Reaper indoctrination is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds, reprogramming the brain through physical and psychological conditioning using electromagnetic fields, infrasonic and ultrasonic noise, and other subliminal methods. Leviathandlc voor mass effect 3 verschijnt eind augustus gaming. The fact that andersons behavior is so damn bizarre during the final sequence. Most other places celebrate the indoctrination theory as proof to how dedicated a fanbase can be. Revelations follows the path of lieutenant anderson, an alliance space officer who is investigating the destruction of a human research base. I realize there are about 10,000 threads about the ending to mass effect here so i hope i can offer a more unique perspective that warrants the creation of this topic. Save your game when you think you have leviathan installed and running. Something lurks in the dark corners of space, something powerful enough to kill a reaper. The leviathans possess the natural ability to influence the behaviors of lesserminded organisms to the point of complete physical and mental control, an effect that is similar to indoctrination.

Clevernoob mass effect 3 indoctrination theory youtube. Shepard races to discover the most closely guarded secret in the galaxy before the reapers silence it forever. Mass effect 2007, the first game in the series, was originally created as an exclusive title for the xbox 360 but was later ported to microsoft windows by demiurge studios, and to the playstation 3 by edge of reality. Much like the indoctrination theory, a fan spawned notion to explain away. The elcor have requested an emergency extraction for warriors and civilians trapped on their homeworld of dekuuna. Seeing as ea allows you to use console commands and tweaks in the single player editing anything that effects multiplayer is not allowed, you can use the console to load the second and other maps of the leviathan dlc the asteroid mission etc. From the very first page you are hooked by this books compelling and suspenseful nature.

Sort of like the husk conversion process in me1, but not exactly. Revelation is a science fiction novel by drew karpyshyn, who was the lead writer of the mass effect series. From what i understand, there were multiple ideas about where the indoctrination begins. Along with the illusive man showing up out of nowhere. The extended cut refutes this by clearly saying that shepherd did indeed reach the citadel, meet with anderson, the illusive man and the catalyst and therefore the indoctrination theory cannot. From the very first page you are hooked by this book s compelling and suspenseful nature. The pack follows commander shepard and the crew of the. Why dont the speeches of anderson, the illusive man, and god make sense at the end.

A logical breakdown of why the mass effect 3 ending makes no. This short book fills each plot hole and lingering question using the indoctrination theory, and ultimately shows how the ending of mass effect 3 is far more brilliant than it may appear. Revelations follows the path of lieutenant anderson, an alliance space officer who is investigating the destruction of a. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading mass effect andromeda. From all the evidence shown for it it is pure logic that the theory is true in my mind, but i remember hearing that eabioware said the theory was wrong, but even though if this might be the case i just cant accept the ending of mass effect 3 and the. Since the launch of this site in april 2012 it has become widely considered one of the main sources for analysis of the mass effect 3 ending and for.

We know that weird dreams can be side effect by indoctrination. Im serious, bioware not ea debunked the indoctrination. Revelations is a truly phenomenal science fiction text. Being the real ending or not, indoctrination theory is somewhat one thousand times more interesting than any other ending in mass effect 3. This may sound crazy, and i thought it was, too, but the increasingly popular theory that commander shepard is actually indoctrinated by the reapers is the only reason the ending could be what it is. It answers a lot of questions and ties the trilogy off nicely. Published in 2007 by del rey books, it is the first novel set in the mass effect universe, and the prequel to the mass effect video game by bioware. The indoctrination theory is no different than the millions of millions of theories on the ending of inception, the ending of the thing or so on and so forth.

Did the real mass effect 3 ending go over everyones heads. As games i really have nothing against the mass effect series, but as something. Though this theory has mostly been put on a side burner, it could possibly be revived in future games if the. Responses to comments, the importance of choice, and the indoctrination theory. Me3 spoilers what happens after the indoctrination theory. There are 8 different endings for mass effect 3, but 7 of the 8 all have much in common. The theory declares that the reapers attempted to indoctrinate. Created by redditor petergot, it argues that the events in the milky way galaxy run a specific predetermined cycle. A few of us didnt believe in the indoctrination theory and were really curious if people feel dumb or not for believing in it. Why the ending of mass effect 3 supports the indoctrination theory.

It is known by fans that the reapers attack every 50,000 years, but this theory states that each cycle has the same characters and events that lead up to the. The effect seems to extend to reaper artifacts, such as the one brought aboard the msv cornucopia that brainwashed her crew. Jan 28, 2017 the extended cut dlc ending put and end to many of the coherent arguments that the indoctrination theory once had. Indoctrination is the term used for the brainwashing effect the reapers and their. Wikipedia vague spoilers what do you do when your ending doesnt make any sense and youre faced with.

Evolution would convert people in seconds, but that was more of an enslavement than indoctrination. As for the similarities of remtech and the crucible, is only that they are designed by bioware. Id love this theory to be real because it would mean the fight against the reapers would not be over and we would end it in mass effect 4 whith a new character. Leviathan is a downloadable content dlc pack developed by bioware and published by electronic arts for the 2012 action roleplaying video game mass effect 3. This short book fills each plot hole and lingering question using the indoctrination theory, and ultimately shows how the ending of mass effect 3 is far more brilliant than it. The wiki is dedicated to collecting all information related to the franchise, such as classes, characters, races, walkthroughs, assignments and more. Not to mention it has more plot holes than the real endings and thats saying something 7. The biblical themes of mass effects endingspoilers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This subreddit is for people who love the mass effect universe the games, books, comics, and dlc.

Indoctrination was a primary theme in the storyline of mass effect and a heavy component of the scripts in the first and second video games. Is the indoctrination theory of mass effect 3 true. Welcome to mass effect indoctrination, a site dedicated to detailed analysis of the mass effect series with the indoctrination theory interpretation of the endings of mass effect 3 the main focus. When asked about the crucible in the mass effect 3 dlc leviathan.